tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732407426313451205.post3990249380517142461..comments2024-03-08T15:43:20.236+00:00Comments on Keynesian Liberal: EU Aliens:foreign nationals in the UK - we did better 100 years ago.Peter Wrigleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16481117156930677255noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732407426313451205.post-30229720938622562422017-03-06T21:16:15.616+00:002017-03-06T21:16:15.616+00:00I don't believe the rules actually forbid such...I don't believe the rules actually forbid such a declaration of intent, do they? It's entirely Merkel's decision to interpret them that way. But perhaps you know the precise wording of the rules better than me. <br /><br />Anyway, this isn't about accommodating 'our convenience', it's about accommodating the many, many EU citizens in Britain and UK citizens in EU countries, who are currently living in uncertainty. Surely it's worth bending a rule, even if rules have to be bent, to give them security and clarity about their future?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732407426313451205.post-1123859595329380672017-03-06T18:04:36.528+00:002017-03-06T18:04:36.528+00:00You're right, this is a different situation. ...You're right, this is a different situation. But whatever the motive the Irish settlement was more generous and humane than the present illiberal use of lives as bargaining chips. <br /><br />On your second point, this is yet another illustration of our selfish UK-centred approach to the EU: you expect them to bend the rules (in this case , I believe, rules written by a British civil servant) to accommodate our convenience rather then act according to them. Peter Wrigleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481117156930677255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732407426313451205.post-10834741144062227282017-03-03T12:56:13.719+00:002017-03-03T12:56:13.719+00:00Nevertheless the status of what became Irish citi...<i>Nevertheless the status of what became Irish citizens still living in the rest of the UK at the time was astonishingly generous and civilised</i><br /><br />That's basically because the UK just decided to ignore Irish independence, and simply continue treating Ireland as if it was a part of the UK (hence the free movement area) and Irish citizens as if they were still citizens of the UK.<br /><br />It's a bit of a different situation when you are dealing with not with UK citizens who have suddenly decided to declare themselves foreigners, but with foreigners who moved to the UK. <br /><br />(For my part, I think that the situations of both EU citizens in the UK, and UK citizens in the EU, should have been made secure long ago as part of a joint declaration between London and Brussels — and that the blame for this not happening, given it was explicitly offered by May's government, rests squarely on the shoulders of those in the EU who are taking a ridiculous 'no negotiations about anything until Article 50 notification is received' stance). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4732407426313451205.post-52474549925480082602017-03-02T15:02:14.482+00:002017-03-02T15:02:14.482+00:00It would seem they are still the'nasty' pa...It would seem they are still the'nasty' party.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03810167115505360008noreply@blogger.com